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Steve Wilhelm wrote:
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>From my copy of "Laws of the Game 2007/2008", Law 11 - Offside:<br>
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"A player in an offside position is only penalised if, at the moment
the ball touched or is played by one of his team, he is, in the opinion
of the referee, involved in active play by:<br>
- interfering with play or<br>
- interfering with an opponent or<br>
- <b>gaining an advantage by being in that position</b>" (emphasis
added by me)<br>
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So an attacker must be moving or "be making a play" to be gaining an
advantage? Wouldn't having the ball moving towards him be an
advantageous?<br>
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Nope. In recent years that phrase has come to have an <i>extremely </i>narrow
definition. From the 2009-20010 FIFA LotG, page 102 (Interpretations
and Guidelines):<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">• “gaining an advantage by being in that
position” means playing a ball that rebounds to him off a goalpost or
the crossbar having been in an offside position or playing a ball that
rebounds to him off an opponent having been in an offside position</blockquote>
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"Gaining an advantage" used to be open to too many variant
interpretations by different referees, so the definition has been
narrowed and made very explicit.<br>
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In general, the scope of the offside infraction has been narrowed over
the years by the IFAB to encourage attacking soccer and reduce the set
of scenarios in which the attacker is guilty of an offside infraction.<br>
<br>
Beau<br>
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- Steve W.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Joseph Neil <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jw_neil@yahoo.com">jw_neil@yahoo.com</a>></span>
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valign="top">Agreed. Good call. Actually, unusually good. <br>
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If the player made ANY move that could be considered a play then
offside should be called, but if he made no play and was not
obstructing the goal keeper or any defender then he was not offside. <br>
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In general, a player can stand in an offside position, but is only
offside if he/she makes a "play". This includes obstruction (so a
player cannot simply stand in front of the goalkeeper for example) and
dummy runs, or almost any kind of movement except back to his/her own
lines well out of the way. <br>
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Note, a player will also be offside if he/she runs back onside, but
THEN goes for the ball. It is all about denying him/her the advantage
of being in that offside position when the ball was kicked.<br>
<br>
Joe<br>
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--- On <b>Wed, 11/4/09, Anna Silverman <i><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:anna@silverman.org" target="_blank">anna@silverman.org</a>></i></b>
wrote:<br>
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From: Anna Silverman <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Subject: Re: [ayso45-refs] Perennial question: offsides rule, yet again<br>
To: "Daniel Edelson" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dredelson@gmail.com" target="_blank">dredelson@gmail.com</a>>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Date: Wednesday, November 4, 2009, 5:39 PM
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<div>No, it is not offside until and unless he makes a play
for the ball, or prevents the defending team from playing the ball.
Your no call was right on.<br>
Anna<br>
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Edelson" <<a
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Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 3:47 PM<br>
Subject: [ayso45-refs] Perennial question: offsides rule, yet again<br>
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> (Tried sending this once but didn't see it. Trying again.
Apologies if this is a duplicate.)<br>
> <br>
> Last weekend I ref'd a U10B game. A parent became irate with me
for not calling an offside infraction. An attacker was in an offside
position and the ball rolled near them, well within playable range. The
attacker did not play the ball nor block line of sight of a defender,
so neither the AR nor I called offsides. A parent griped that since the
player in an offside position could have played, we should have
declared offsides.<br>
> <br>
> Ruling?<br>
> <br>
> Thanks.<br>
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