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Beau James wrote:
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kurt runke wrote:
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<pre wrap="">If a team takes a restart kick quickly (before the other team clears
out beyond the 6 yards) and the ball hits the other team (inside of 6
yards), I'd assume there is no violation?</pre>
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One clarification/exception: on a goal kick (or <i>any </i>free kick
by the defense taken from within their own penalty area), the ball is<b>
</b>not in play until it leaves the penalty area.<br>
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Even when the defense takes a quick kick, if the ball is touched by <i>any
</i>player (either team) before it leaves the penalty area, the kick
must be retaken.<br>
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Beau<br>
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<pre wrap="">(I've seen this on a
direct/indirect free kick when a team on the attack wants to press an
advantage.)
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The complete explanation, from the "Interpretations and Guidelines"
section of the Laws of the Game (Law 13, page 125 in the 2009/2010
edition):<br>
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<li>If a player decides to take a free kick quickly and an
opponent who is less than 9.15 m from the ball intercepts it, the
referee must allow play to continue.</li>
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Of course, the opponent is still expected to have been moving away from
the ball, not standing still or trying to block the free kick; and
adjust the required distance for the youth divisions (6 yards in U7/U8;
8 yards in U10; 10 yards [9.15 meters] in U12 and older).<br>
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Beau<br>
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<pre wrap="">On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Beau James <a
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<pre wrap="">Padma Ramaswamy wrote:
The AYSO Guide for Referees and Coaches says
"As
with free kicks, the team taking the goal kick may elect to take a quick
kick before all of the opposing
team has retreated outside the penalty area as required."
So I assume the referees do not enforce the opponents staying 6 yrds away ?
Very often the Goalkeeper or defender quickly kicks the ball back into play,
and in order not to interrupt the flow of the game, I let it pass.
Is this correct ?
It really depends on age, experience, and context.
Opponents are responsible for moving away from the point were the ball is
being placed for the goal kick. That is always the opponents responsibility
on any free kick - the person taking the kick does not need to ask them to
move! And this applies at every age and division.
Whether the opponents succeed in getting the full required distance away (6
yards, in U7/U8) depends on whether the defense decides to take a quick
kick. In general, the referee should not stop the defense from taking a
quick kick.
However, if the opponents are not even trying to move away from the ball -
or worse, if the opponents are intentionally standing still in front of the
kicker (and closer than the 6 yard minimum, in U7/U8), then at every
age/division, the referee should be verbally instructing/warning the
opponents to "respect the distance".
In U7 and U8 the referee is also helping to teach the players the game.
Depending on the specific situation (e.g. repeated violations, or complete
confusion about how far is "6 yards"), it may be appropriate for the referee
to make a kick "ceremonial" rather than waiting for the kicker to request
it:
-ask the kicker to wait for a signal,
- pace off the distance to show the opponents how far away they must be from
the ball,
-then signal for the kick.
Whether to do this, and how often, is up to the referee's judgment at each
match.
Beau
Thanks,
Padma
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Correct!
Rowsey, Eric M wrote:
I would say 6 yards from placement of the goal kick
and certainly not
inside the goal/penalty area.
Eric Rowsey
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Subject: [ayso45-refs] Question on U8 goal Kick
Hi Everyone,
Since U8 division has common goal and penalty area,
How far a defender
must be from the goal area for a goal kick?
Brgds.
Pradeep
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