[ayso45-refs] U7 Slide Tackling

[Beau James]

Brian Lillie wrote:
> Thanks, Beau.
>
> The national position is very clear - slide tackling is allowed, even 
> at the U7 level. I wish this would have been clearer to the *U7 
> coaches* as we were told in the first game by the ref that there was 
> no slide tackling. Er could have been teaching it along with other 
> fundamental skills.
>
> No worries, and now it's clear.

I don't think we're quite 100% in sync.

/Blanket /prohibitions against slide tackling are strongly discouraged 
by AYSO National.  However, some regions still chose to block them at 
certain ages - for example, here's region 218's position:

    http://www.davisayso.org/aysorules.htm

    * No slide tackling allowed for U10 and younger. A slide tackle is 
to be considered, at a minimum, dangerous play.

To date, Region 45 has discouraged coaches from /actively teaching/ 
slide tackles to U10 and younger players as a first-order tactic. Even 
if the tackler executes the slide tackle mechanics very well, the 
tackler must also be observant and mature enough to judge whether the 
opponent being tackled is athletically capable of coping  safely with a 
slide tackle. Both factors are beyond the ability of most U7 and U8 
players, and many U10 players. (Not all of them! but most/many.)

We teach referees to focus on the safety issue, not to rely on a blanket 
prohibition.  That's to allow the skill to develop, as and when the 
players develop.

The point I'm trying to emphasize is that it is (should be) very very 
situational, and very /likely /to be deemed dangerous play at the 
younger divisions.

Beau

> Brian
>
>
>
> On Nov 10, 2009, at 7:23 AM, Beau James <b_james at pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> Brian Lillie wrote:
>>> I asked the question too because we were being slide tackled like 
>>> crazy when we played the Blue Dolphins (just one example) and my 
>>> kids were asking why "they were doing what we told them they 
>>> couldn't do." This needs to be clarified as it creates a sense of 
>>> unfairness for the kid and frustration for the coaches.
>>
>> Brian,
>>
>> Can you elaborate on what still needs clarification (or perhaps, 
>> clarification to which audience)?
>>
>> Here's my earlier reply to the region 45 referee mailing list:
>>
>>   
>> http://lists.ayso45.org/pipermail/ayso45-refs-ayso45.org/2009-November/000128.html 
>>
>>
>> and here's the AYSO National position:
>>
>>   http://www.aysohelp.org/referee/Frequently_Asked_Questions/FAQ53.pdf
>>
>> Beau
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 9, 2009, at 9:20 AM, Adin Miller <adin.miller at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've noticed a few teams that we were actively doing this as well 
>>>> (also U7). A few times I stopped play and warned players about 
>>>> dangerous play.
>>>>
>>>> -Adin
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 8, 2009, at 5:01 PM, Mark Ruzon <ruzon at CS.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> While we're on the subject of policies that aren't rules:
>>>>>
>>>>> After my son's game a week ago I had a chat with the coaches.  One 
>>>>> coach complained about slide tackling.  I told him this is how I 
>>>>> understood the situation:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Coaches are not to teach slide tackling.
>>>>> 2) Coaches are to discourage it when they see it.
>>>>> 3) If done correctly, no foul can be called.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this correct?
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
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