[ayso45-refs] Perennial question: offsides rule, yet again
Brian Kasser-Menlo Park
bkasser at russellreynolds.com
Thu Nov 5 06:17:45 PST 2009
The bigger question in my mind is why a parent is behaving like this. From the description below, this sounds completely unacceptable regardless of the actual offsides call. Not sure if that aspect of the below has been addressed with that team coach?
Brian
From: ayso45-refs-bounces at ayso45.org [mailto:ayso45-refs-bounces at ayso45.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Neil
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:32 PM
To: Daniel Edelson; ayso45-refs at ayso45.org; Anna Silverman
Subject: Re: [ayso45-refs] Perennial question: offsides rule, yet again
Agreed. Good call. Actually, unusually good.
If the player made ANY move that could be considered a play then offside should be called, but if he made no play and was not obstructing the goal keeper or any defender then he was not offside.
In general, a player can stand in an offside position, but is only offside if he/she makes a "play". This includes obstruction (so a player cannot simply stand in front of the goalkeeper for example) and dummy runs, or almost any kind of movement except back to his/her own lines well out of the way.
Note, a player will also be offside if he/she runs back onside, but THEN goes for the ball. It is all about denying him/her the advantage of being in that offside position when the ball was kicked.
Joe
--- On Wed, 11/4/09, Anna Silverman <anna at silverman.org> wrote:
From: Anna Silverman <anna at silverman.org>
Subject: Re: [ayso45-refs] Perennial question: offsides rule, yet again
To: "Daniel Edelson" <dredelson at gmail.com>, ayso45-refs at ayso45.org
Date: Wednesday, November 4, 2009, 5:39 PM
No, it is not offside until and unless he makes a play for the ball, or prevents the defending team from playing the ball. Your no call was right on.
Anna
----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Edelson" <dredelson at gmail.com</mc/compose?to=dredelson at gmail.com>>
To: <ayso45-refs at ayso45.org</mc/compose?to=ayso45-refs at ayso45.org>>
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 3:47 PM
Subject: [ayso45-refs] Perennial question: offsides rule, yet again
> (Tried sending this once but didn't see it. Trying again. Apologies if this is a duplicate.)
>
> Last weekend I ref'd a U10B game. A parent became irate with me for not calling an offside infraction. An attacker was in an offside position and the ball rolled near them, well within playable range. The attacker did not play the ball nor block line of sight of a defender, so neither the AR nor I called offsides. A parent griped that since the player in an offside position could have played, we should have declared offsides.
>
> Ruling?
>
> Thanks.
>
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