[ayso45-refs] U-8 goalie way out of position

[Andrew Rasmussen]

Hi John,

I believe the main issue is where the goalkeeper's hands are, and 
whether the offender is responsive to the goalkeeper's position.

I think that if both hands of the goalkeeper are touching (or within an 
inch or so of) the ball first - and the offender kicks the ball anyway - 
it would be dangerous play regardless of direction the goalkeeper is moving.

The goalkeeper needn't be facing the opponent for the play to be 
considered dangerous.

My ref-instinct would be to keep the game going if the goalkeeper is 
second to the ball after the offender is already in the swing of 
shooting the ball. If the offender is not shooting, but dribbling, say - 
and the goalkeeper's hands find their way to the ball then the offender 
needs to stop trying to control the ball. If in the next instant the 
ball has rolled away again from the goalkeeper's hands, the offender 
should try to recover control of the ball and score. Dangerous play 
should be called if the offender keeps playing the ball when he/she 
shouldn't.

By deciding to play the ball with the goalkeeper's hands on (or nearly 
on) the ball, the offender risks being called for dangerous play - and 
thereby may giving up any subsequent chance to score.

Andy

John Vastano wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>  
> I've had the same situation come up in two consecutive U-8 games and 
> wanted to get some advice on the best way to handle it:
>  
> An inexperienced goalie comes out with other defenders to the edge of 
> the single goal/penalty area. The goalie does not try to pick up the 
> ball in play. An attacker dribbles/pushes the ball towards the goal 
> and will obviously score. The goalie is now running back towards the 
> goal and diving towards the ball, getting a hand on it but not 
> controlling it. Ball rolls or is kicked into goal by attacker.
>  
> I have let the play continue and allowed a goal. From my perspective, 
> the dangerous play here is on the part of the goalie, who has gone out 
> of position and is now trying to recover, and there is no way to 
> preemptively stop play because I think a goalie is about to dive as 
> the attacker shoots. There is also less of a possibility of a violent 
> collision because the players are heading in the same direction. In 
> one of the two instances, a goalie's hand did get kicked as she dove 
> towards the ball.
>  
> OK, that's the scenario and my interpretation. At the very least, I'd 
> like to find a way to teach the goalie how to correctly (and safely) 
> defend the goal. Let me know what you think!
>  
> Thanks,
> JohnV
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